Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Hasta La Vista, Baby!

Nothing warms my heart like a protest. Love the pic of the faculty turning their back on the girly man.

Favorite Kosipolitan quote:
I'll be back .... when it's safe.



At 10:36 AM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

Sounds like he ran away from all the girly profs.


At 11:02 AM, Blogger Musmanno said...

Seems rather disgraceful to me. The college obviously invited him there to give the commencement. Seems to me it shows a lack of decorum among those in the audience, which is something that discourse in this country suffers from greatly. There are plenty of opportunities to gather together to protest, but when you're part of the institution that invites someone to speak, and then it turns into something like this, it is unseemly. I would expect better of people.

At 11:48 AM, Blogger Capitola said...

Hi all--

Well, the 'faculty' didn't invite him, and they have every right to tell the Governor to silently fuck off if they want to.

Arnold's in a big mess here in CA. His special election is costing us taxpayers money we don't have, and he's taking a big crap on our nurses, teachers, cops, schools, you name it, all for the glory of his massive fucking ego. The man's taken more special interest money in the history! of his office in this state, just to line his political war-chest. *That's* unseemly.

At 12:42 PM, Blogger Musmanno said...

The school invited him and the faculty are representative of the school.

I agree they have every right to do it, I just don't think it was an appropriate venue. This sort of thing makes me much less likely to listen to what they have to say about things. But I'm really big on civility in public discourse and not having to denigrate oneself to make a point. I think that is what happened here.

I certainly won't defend Arnold's policies or personality, however. I don't see anything to defend in that regard. But I like to see the side I agree with take the high road ;)

At 1:11 PM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

I respectfully disagree Scott. IMO, what you propose sounds like "My president started this war, therefore I have to support it."

To paraphrase Cap's old byline, I believe dissent is the key to America's growth and survival.

And to quote somebody else, "Fuck polite."


At 5:56 PM, Blogger Musmanno said...


I don't recall saying anyone had to support anything. There are plenty of opportunities to protest, and protest vociferously, against any politician or policy you want. Faculty protesting a commencement speaker invited by their institution is juvenile. I know asking for a little decorum in the public sphere isn't in vogue these days, but I think we could use some.

At 6:26 PM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

So protest is juvenile unless done under the politically correct circumstances?

At 7:50 AM, Blogger Capitola said...

Not only what Jeff sez, Scott, but the Governator started the mess he's found himself in when he publicly stated he was going to "kick the Nurses butts" and called teachers and cops "special interest groups." *He's* out of line. *He* needs decorum classes. *He* needs to know that he can't just step on people and get away with it.

Fuck with the middle classes? Prepare to be dogged at every opportunity ... which is happening. He can't go anywhere in this state without organized protesters hounding him.

The faculty turning their backs was the least they could have done to show their dissent.

At 11:03 AM, Blogger Musmanno said...

Hey Cap:

I agree the Governor needs to show decorum as well. No doubt about it.

I know we disagree on this issue, but I do like to see more civility in political discourse, and I'm leery of justifying a lack of decorum on the part of the side I like by pointing to the side I dislike and saying "see, they do it too."

But reasonable minds differ on this one :)


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