Monday, May 23, 2005

Scumsucking Bastards

MaryScott rants so I don't have to:
You wanna see me out in the streets, screaming like a madwoman? Re-institute the draft. I'm not willing to bet the lives of MORE innocents on the theory that if there's a draft, millions will vote the Republicans out of office.

For the love of god, they haven't voted them out of office so far, and the fuckers have all but burned the Constitution. People are fucking SHEEP, and if there's a draft, it will take a good solid few years of body bags on television (if they SHOW them) -- IF that -- before they start to get the message.

CHRIST, why, WHY must men continue to propose that the only solution is to kill each other?

Mary's responding to a Kos diary on Tacitus embracing the D word because of military personnel shortages needed to fight their wars of choice.

Duh. Pearl Harbor patriotism is so 1941.

8 Comments:

At 2:26 PM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

I object to referring to the administration as "scumsucking bastards." It's too nice a term for them.

Jeff

 
At 4:22 PM, Blogger tas said...

I agree with Jeff. I would at least start with "Pig-fucking motherfuckers," but even that's treating them with kid gloves.

Anyways, with the draft... Honestly, I hate to say this, but the draft might be the only thing that slaps some sense into this country. Vietnam wasn't vehmently challenged until the draft was instituted. Before then there was no urgency to oppose because those who were well off didn't have to worry about going to Vietnam. But once the specter of military service for the well off entered the picture, then we saw protests erupt.

I'm reminded of the end of Fahrenheit 9/11 where Michael Moore details how our military is made up mostly of children from poor families. The rich won't willingly send their children off to die in a needless war, and as long as they can ignore that the war is going on, that's the amount of time they will be complacent for. But once the draft is introduced, that will be the death knell for this war and the Republican agenda.

And the sad fact of the matter is that Tactius is right -- coincidentally enough, it's what we on the left who have monitored have been saying all along -- we don't have the manpower to win. If we want to stay in Iraq, then the draft is inevitable. And, just like Vietnam, having the draft by no means will gaurantee us a victory. In fact, if the Bush administraion was smart, they would just pull out of Iraq right now before it causes the Republican Party some real political damage. Which I hope they do, because while I'd love to see the Republicans suffer, I'd rather not see it over the dead bodies of innocent Iraqis and US soldiers.

 
At 8:29 AM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

The generals are already admitting that the Iraqi force isn't coming along, and that we'll be there for a long time. Some are hinting at the possibility of defeat. This is the main reason Rummy is bringing troops home from Europe and Asia: so he has a strategic reserve to spend in Iraq.

We've already spent vast amounts of national treasure on this adventure, and will spend vast amounts more. And we will fail.

That's not what I want to happen, but the logical conclusion has developed beyond the tealeaf stage.

Jeff

 
At 8:29 AM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

The generals are already admitting that the Iraqi force isn't coming along, and that we'll be there for a long time. Some are hinting at the possibility of defeat. This is the main reason Rummy is bringing troops home from Europe and Asia: so he has a strategic reserve to spend in Iraq.

We've already spent vast amounts of national treasure on this adventure, and will spend vast amounts more. And we will fail.

That's not what I want to happen, but the logical conclusion has developed beyond the tealeaf stage.

Jeff

 
At 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi guys--

I wrote this long, detailed, heart-felt post and fucking blogger ate it. Get what you pay for, eh?

Shorter: The government can have my kid when they pry him from my cold, dead hands.

You both are right.

Tas, a draft would have average Americans storming the White House a la the villagers in Frankenstein and the heads of government would line Pennsylvania Avenue. A draft would bring down Team Bush and probably damage the GOP until Hell froze over.

Jeff, I believe Iraq is our Vietnam, it is an unwinnable war. I just can't see throwing more bodies into the war machine as a way to 'fix' Iraq.

Cap

 
At 8:51 AM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

Cap,

Sadly, it will take too long, too many KIAs and other casualties, and too much money before enough sanity sets in and the people revolt.

Yes, this is another Vietnam.

And another 1984. I heard this morning someone's trying to get Bill Mahr's show pulled off the air for a joke he cracked about Lyndsie England. "Traitorous," one right wing crack head called it.

Jeff

 
At 8:51 AM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

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At 7:36 PM, Blogger tas said...

Sadly, it will take too long, too many KIAs and other casualties, and too much money before enough sanity sets in and the people revolt.

Yes, this is another Vietnam.


And the fact that it will take increasing amounts of tragedy for people to realize that this war is wrong, instead of realizing it when it mattered and stopping the war before it started, is another reason why Iraq is our Vietnam.

 

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